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Fri 8 Mar 13 #1 
kevg
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Got any on site ??

I worked for a guy who was a Freemason. Company closed after he'd fiddled millions from it (that is true). He went from that disaster to managing a large building firm, even though his wife banned him from using power tools cos he was dangerous with them. This "job" progressed to organising a TT concert, all the old rock bands were brought over and tickets were hugely expensive. Unsurprisingly the whole affair lost over £500,000. Out of work again he suddenly turned up as Managing Director of "the" shopping mall in Douglas. Waiting to see how much he can screw out of that before it goes bust.

Was he a Freemason ?? You bet your life. A friend came over from UK, he'd been trying to join the Masons for years, Isle of Man branch let him in. First meeting who is across the table from him ??

Yup , Mr X.

Anyone who says Freemasons are just a club who do charitable works etc is missing the point. Jobs for the boys exists and these people are the worst.

 

Come on, I'm bored, let's get fighting.




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Fri 8 Mar 13 #2 
Ajax
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He may have been one but that sounds like he was also a Dickhead.




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Sun 10 Mar 13 #3 
sally906
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My dad was a freemason.  A few days after his death announcement was put in the paper two men appeared at the doorway and asked for dads equipment and took it away - it was all kept in a locked box which had the freemason's symbol on it.

I wish we had opened the box would have loved to have known what was in it.

Is still very secret, but I understand they are moving with the times - not enough to let women in (heavens above) but the members doing good for mankind and building each other up.

I would hazard a guess there would be bad eggs in the Masonic organisation same as anywhere - but you can't judge them all by one man




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Sun 10 Mar 13 #4 
Ajax
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Oh bloody hell. Does that mean my husband has yet another f***ing box full of shit somewhere? I just hope he has the good grace not to die.




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Mon 11 Mar 13 #5 
Honey Badger
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I believe that all of the USA's Presidents have been Masons except for Nixon and Obama.  Please correct me if I am wrong.  It is very secretive.  Ajax, why not find the box and open it and tell us what is in it?  That would be great!




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Mon 11 Mar 13 #6 
Doctor Factenstein
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Well, you say that's what you believe.  If that's what you believe then you're not wrong.




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Mon 11 Mar 13 #7 
sally906
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The following Presidents were freemasons:

George Washington
James Monroe
Andrew Jackson
James Polk
James Buchanan
Andrew Johnson
James Garfield
William McKinley
Theodore Roosevelt
Howard Taft
Warren Harding
Franklin Roosevelt
Harry Truman
Gerald Ford

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Abraham Lincoln was not a Freemason. He did apply for membership in Tyrian Lodge, Springfield, Ill., shortly after his nomination for the presidency in 1860 but withdrew the application because he felt that his applying for membership at that time might be construed as a political ruse to obtain votes. He advised the lodge that he would resubmit his application again when he returned from the presidency.

Lincoln never returned. On the death of the president, Tyrian Lodge adopted, on April 17, 1865, a resolution to say "that the decision of President Lincoln to postpone his application for the honours of Freemasonry, lest his motives be misconstrued, is the highest degree honorable to his memory."

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Lyndon Johnson received his first degree on October 30, 1937. After receiving the degree he found that his congressional duties (elected in 1937) took so much time he was unable to pursue the masonic degrees.

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Ronald Reagan has often been referred to as a Freemason. President Reagan is not a Freemason although he is an honorary member of the Imperial Council of the Shrine. President Reagan has on numerous occasions been involved in Shrine and masonic functions throughout his career.

The confusion as to his membership arises from a ceremony held in the Oval Office of the White House on February 11th, 1988, when a group of Freemasons presented President Reagan with a certificate of honor from the Grand Lodge of Washington, D.C., then he was made an Honourary Scottish Rite mason. The title of Freemason can only be conferred by a Grand Lodge of Ancient Free and Accepted Masons. In Reagan's case this was not done, probably because the ceremonies would have taken a full day to confer and the president's time was limited; therefore,President Reagan should only be referred to as a Shriner or Scottish Rite mason. The Shrine and Scottish Rite are concordant bodies and cannot confer the title Freemason on any person.

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George Bush has also on numerous occasions been referred to as a Freemason.The confusion as to President Bush being a member arises from the swearing in ceremonies at his inauguration. President Bush took his oath of office on the George Washington Bible which belongs to St. Johns Lodge in New York City. Because the Bible belonged to a Masonic Lodge many writers assumed he was a Freemason. The Bible was used at the request of the Joint Congressional Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies

This Bible was first used on April 30, 1789, by the Grand Master of the Masons in New York, to administer the oath of office to George Washington, the first president. Other presidents who took their oath of office with this Bible are Warren G. Harding, Dwight D. Eisenhower and Jimmy Carter.

 




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Mon 11 Mar 13 #8 
Honey Badger
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I guess there is a difference between Freemasons and Masons?




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Mon 11 Mar 13 #9 
Doctor Factenstein
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Nope. None whatsoever.




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Tue 12 Mar 13 #10 
Honey Badger
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Sally, you are absolutely right about the Presidents.  I guess it is an all-American urban legend.




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Tue 12 Mar 13 #11 
Ajax
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Why don't I? Because it isn't my secret to tell. That's how I roll.




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Tue 12 Mar 13 #12 
Honey Badger
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Actually, I do too, Ajax,, but that would be tempting.




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