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Sat 27 Oct 12 #1 
jmaxg
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As a Victorian Australian, I have been privy to many Australian Rules premiership matches......more than other Australians because the sport was born from my state.

As an Australian, I have been a supporter in numerous cricket test matches, including those that came down to the wire.

With World Series Cricket, I have watched my absolute heroes, Clive LLoyd, Viv Richards, Dennis Lillee, Geoff Thompson, Rod Marsh, Max Walker, Richard Hadlee and yes, even Ian Botham......battle it out against a very select crowd.

With my own Carlton Football Club, I have watched them battle through three Premiership finals.

In America, since 2002, I have seen the Detroit Pistons "team" their way to a 2004 NBA Final victory.

And in 2006, I saw the Detroit Tigers in the World Series for the first time.

Well, now the Detroit Tigers are in the World Series for a second time and this time? I have an observation to make.

Watching the World Series of Major League Baseball is NOT easy. In fact, I think it is the hardest sport to watch of all sports I have ever watched from a pressure perspective and that may make it the greatest sport of all.

Why?

Because, defensively, you become so invested in every pitch, even as the viewer. You become so finely tuned to the defensive game when your team is in the field and so conscious of ever error they make that acts of God get magnified way out of proportion.

"Luck" itself takes on a different meaning.

In the offensive game, you hope and prey that your batters will live up to their statistics with....every-bloody-moment-of-every-innings......and then think about Runs Batted In (RBI) versus single home runs and how does that effect the picture.

In short, this is the most pressure-packed game I have ever experienced as a viewer and I just felt it appropriate to point that out.

You idiots who came up with this game? Pat yourselves on the back. This is drama personified. Of all the sports I have ever watched, I will concede that.

On a personal note, the Detroit Tigers are now down two-zip. But now we go back to three games in Detroit amongst OUR people. We lose here and it's all over.

But that just ain't gonna happen.

Is this the perfect sport? Not sure there.......cricket has it's sublime moments, so does Aussie Rules Football and basketball. And yes, when your team wins, grid-iron football can be magnificent.

But this much I do know..........in baseball, the sadness at a loss goes deeper than any sport I have ever been part of.

I am thinking that is significant.


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Sat 27 Oct 12 #2 
sally906 (online)
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You haven't mentioned the supreme perfect sport Rugby Union!


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Sun 28 Oct 12 #3 
kevg
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good on ya Sal

Autumn Internationals

Scotland v NZ.............£42

England v NZ................£180

Think I may have to support Scotland this year !!


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Sun 28 Oct 12 #4 
Ajax
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Scotland does sport?


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Sun 28 Oct 12 #5 
southshoregirl

Scots are sports. Look at alternate meanings of the word.


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Sun 28 Oct 12 #6 
southshoregirl

How much they banging ya for World Series tickets this year?


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Mon 29 Oct 12 #7 
jmaxg
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$254 for an uplevel bleacher.

Anyway, I have a competition to run.


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Mon 29 Oct 12 #8 
jmaxg
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Ok, it's all over. We failed. The San Francisco Giants win the World Series 4 to 0.

How do I feel? A little nauseous, and profoundly sad. Not just for me, but for them......my team. They know they let us down and I bet they feel absolutely ratshit about it.

Look, judging by the above, you guys think your ball sports are everything. Rugby especially.

I was born in Victoria so states that loved sports that involved three men getting off that two men were loving that one or two men were "scrumming" with them made me roll my eyes with all the latent homosexuality that suggested.

But I hear that "rugby" is popular. I'll take your word for it.

We never had that problem until the "Melbourne Storm" was created.

The truth is I never got the bloody point of rugby! League or Union.

The whole "passing the ball backwards" thing has always confused me. I mean, I get the point, but does that necessarily mean it's a good game?


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Mon 29 Oct 12 #9 
jmaxg
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Summary - I would rather shower with ladies that lots of men.


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Tue 30 Oct 12 #10 
kevg
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It's rounders, the girls play it !!


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Wed 31 Oct 12 #11 
jmaxg
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Well, whatever. The Detroit Tigers lost anyway in as a humiliating way as possible.

I maintain that it hurt and I took it personally.

Smart people tell me, that's how it goes with baseball......so I better get used to it.

Well, I don't want to get used to it. I don't wish to get used to losing.

I'll pay for it, sure enough. But I want to win.


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Wed 31 Oct 12 #12 
jackson
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Well i have watched baseball all of my life. raised close to Houston, the Astros have allways been my team along with the Mariners, since i've lived in Seattle
area for over 20 years now. My experience is after being an Astro fan for many
decades (along with my father) they actually made it to the WS in 2005. They lost in a 4 game sweep to the White Sox. My dad died the next year having watched them since their beginning & takiing me to several games as a teen. The Mariners are about the same caliber, possibly worse, Such teams are essentially farm teams for the real teams (Yankees, Giants, Cardinals, A's, Red Sox, Tigers & maybe a few others) who have won the vast majority of all championships. It makes for sort of a dull & pretty predictable sport to watch. This year for the 1st time, i refused to watch regular season games, but did watch most of the playoffs. Guess i'll stick to that.


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Sat 3 Nov 12 #13 
jmaxg
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Well, I am a newbie. I saw "Moneyball" (loved it!) and saw your point.

(although I thought the 'A's' were a farm team. Wasn't that "Moneyball"'s point?)

Anyhow, as stated, this game once you know it, is amazing.

As opposed to cricket, where seasons are short and the teams are basically "you are what you get". In one year, Australia will dominate. Another, it might be Sri-Lanka. Maybe another year, the heroic West Indies will sweep in and take over. Test cricket is much the same.

But that's nothing like baseball.

In this game, as you start a season, you are like an uncoiled spring. As the 125 game plus season progresses, depending on results, the pressure builds and builds to the point that, if you make a playoff, then the pressure doubles. You make the World series, it gets even worse.

I am a "one team" kinda guy so if my team fails, I stop watching. That comes from old days and my beloved Carlton Football Club. The same rule now applies if I watch the Tigers, the Detroit Lions (NFL) or the Pistons (NBA). Either they make it, or they don't.

In this country, play-offs are the point. If you make it that far, you have a chance at doing it all. In MLB, after making it "that far", I have found more pressure just watching this game than enduring Carlton in five premiership seasons. Something is very different and not what I expected. That is a credit to the USA and this amazing game they invented. It deserves to be a game on the world stage.


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Sat 3 Nov 12 #14 
jackson
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well if you love the game, theoretically you'll just love it no matter who's winning. most times that's the way i've felt. it's just that it stands the possibility of getting old after a lifetime. most of the games available here would be the mariners. when april 1st came around this year i just said i ain't watchin these lame mf's through another losing season. anyway, the playoffs were great & turned out well, as the Giants are one of my
favorite teams.


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Sat 3 Nov 12 #15 
jmaxg
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Uh-huh......screw you.

;-)


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Sat 3 Nov 12 #16 
jackson
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well Jim Leyland is my favorite manager, & i know some Tigers fans;), so woulda been alrite with them winning too. was waiting till the last moment for their big bats to explode & its pretty strange that they never did. lived in SF region for awhile & have gone on vacations there, beginning with senior trip in '69.


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Mon 5 Nov 12 #17 
Ajax
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You make it sound as though there is only international cricket. Carn the tigers!


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Tue 6 Nov 12 #18 
jmaxg
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Sorry Ajax.....of course there is Sheffield Shield cricket (state) and district cricket.

You don't get your Don Bradmans, Denis Lillees, Jeff Thompsons, Rod Marshes, Borders and Chapelli Brothers without district and state cricket.

Was gonna say Merv Hughes but I was afraid stuff was gonna get thrown at m.....

*swish, clank, swish, swish, clank, swish...

Hey! I am a proud Victorian! The guy had a purpose.....even if it was only to piss off the opposition whoever they may be.

;-)

Jacko, the collapse was simply inexplicable. The most feared pitcher in baseball simply died an unholy death and the Giants batters picked up on it and they, quite rightly, trashed him.

And yeah, our legendary power bats just flapped away. You could see Miguel was spoiling for a big hit, but Cabrera likes to hit with at least some guys on bases......he loves to bring them home. That never happened except for three occasions and the Giants outed the team on two of those.

Miggy just doesn't like those one run homers like Delman Young does.

And Prince Fielder just looked like a tub of lard we paid way too much money for.........tradition with Detroit or not.......not one run.....zip.


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Tue 6 Nov 12 #19 
Ajax
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Ricky Ponting is back playing Sheffield Shield for Tassie. In keeping with my off topic bursts of insight.


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Tue 6 Nov 12 #20 
jmaxg
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Ponting always seemed to me that he should have been a great cricketer.

His batting style was perfect in the classic sense using both bat and pad in pure defence. The trouble was he never had the "eye" as good as some and it showed.

He sort of reminded me of Allan Border.


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Tue 6 Nov 12 #21 
jmaxg
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I miss Boonie though.


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Tue 6 Nov 12 #22 
Ajax
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You don't have to. The talking Boonie is your friend.


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Tue 6 Nov 12 #23 
soupy
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I think I'll stick with Nascar at least they only turn left and there is only one winner and I can keep up with their stats well except for the Razorbacks this year 0-0-0- They SUCK THANKS TO THEIR NEW COACH who is like 40,million dollars in debt and bankruptcies.


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Tue 6 Nov 12 #24 
jmaxg
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If one of Boonies' recorded messages says:

"Under the Southern Cross I stand
A sprig of wattle in my hand
A native of my native land
Australia! You bloody bewdy!"


......then I think I'll order one!

:-)


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