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Mon 30 Jan 12 #1 
kevg
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Get your news and views here. All happening from saturday 4th February.


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Mon 30 Jan 12 #2 
shortbreadforme27
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England to do as well as their CRICKET Team.


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Mon 30 Jan 12 #3 
Doctor Factenstein
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Well, that cricket team is still, despite losing the last two tests, the top ranked test team in the world. So I'm not sure that's quite the barb you were intended there, shorty.

I think England will surprise people. They've been judged on their world cup campaign and people have conveniently forgot that they won the last Six Nations and impressed in the Autumn before that. They came unstuck in the RWC because they reverted to playing the staid, forwards and Wilkinson-focussed football rather than sticking with the more attacking style that had been serving them well.

In other words, they bottled it.

Without the burden of expectation, I think they'll bounce back pretty strongly. More's the pity.

Wales, on the other hand, I expect will disappoint us. We've got injuries in key positions with Priestland, Jenkins, Wyn Jones, Roberts, Lydiate and Charteris out or doubtful and we've never enjoyed great strength in depth. We won't have the extended team-training period that we had before the world cup, which saw our fitness impressing everyone.

England won't have become a bad team overnight and we won't enjoy the reverse transformation either. Not that we were a bad team before, mind...


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Mon 30 Jan 12 #4 
shortbreadforme27
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It was my usual Kev wind up but any other FACTOPIAN is welcome to take the wind up. You bit welcome to Shorty's wind up club. Seriously with the talent E ngland have at their disposal they should stroll it but and u never can tell, just maybe, possibly, they have a chance Scotland may surprise us all. But then again nocan't get too excited about it it's bad for me ticker and after the highs and lows of Mr Andrew Murray it's time to take a back seat until the European Championships in the summer when that Italian fellow will lead England to nowhere again.


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Mon 30 Jan 12 #5 
kevg
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I did mention last year that Robinson has never impressed me as a coach so can't see any great developments. Time to see what Lancaster can do. Lot of truth in Stu's assessment so fingers crossed and hoping for the best. Somehow I think it will be France this year, but I think I said that last year as well !! Ireland starting to creak at the old seams I'm afraid and Italy are just Italy, may win one.


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Fri 3 Feb 12 #6 
kevg
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9 changes to Engalnd team !! Farrel in, has not impressed me, hope I'm wrong. New captain who has only been capped once ??


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Fri 3 Feb 12 #7 
Doctor Factenstein
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By all accounts, he's been doing very well leading Quins.

If you figure Tom Wood was the likely frontrunner for captain and remember that he's missing the first two matches due to injury then Robshaw doesn't seem like a bad shout for skipper. He's got nothing to lose and so can play the role of caretaker captain with an element of freedom.

Maybe.


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Sat 4 Feb 12 #8 
kevg
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Good win by France, very good performance by Italy tho, didn't deserve that scoreline. Wonder who taught them the one handed pass, he should be shot !! Wasting Masi at 15, excellent player.
Strange to praise the French defence for such an attacking team but it won them the game, watch out England next week !


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Sat 4 Feb 12 #9 
kevg
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Hmmm, an object lesson in how to lose a game you should have won by a mile. I thought only England did things like that ?


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Sun 5 Feb 12 #10 
shortbreadforme27
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Nah we have perfected that ACT recently - no real fire in our bellies, no pride in donning the shirt and to boot led by an exiled Englishman (no offence) but surely there must be a Scottish coach worth his salt to lead our national team.

Scots wah hae wi Wallace bled.


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Sun 5 Feb 12 #11 
Doctor Factenstein
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There can't be many better examples of how to throw a game away.

Scotland performed well except for when it counted, spilling the ball too many times in the English 22. I'm not sure that it's a lack of passion that's the problem. Precision was more lacking, I'd say.

England were pretty dire and it says something that the only thing distinguishing the two teams' scores was a charge-down try from a woeful clearance attempt by Dan Parks.

I rated Parks at one point (before he came to the Blues) but they've got to start looking elsewhere. On his day, he can control a game brilliantly and push for Man of the Match but his days are getting fewer and further between and when he isn't on form he's a liability.

Still - you've got to take heart in the performance of Denton. If the rest of the team can get up to playing at that standard (and that of Max Evans) then there's hope yet.


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Sun 5 Feb 12 #12 
kevg
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Robbed !! Wasn't even a penalty never mind a sin bin offence !! The guy had one foot on the floor for goodness sake, disgusted.


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Sun 5 Feb 12 #13 
Doctor Factenstein
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The law really needs looking at in that area.

Bradley Davies' tackle was appalling - particularly as it was off the ball. He should've been shown red. It was certainly far worse than Sam Warburton's World Cup sending off.

I really didn't see what was wrong with Ferris' tackle. He kept hold throughout and there didn't seem, to me, to be anything dangerous about it.

It's a physical game and whilst I understand and support the wish to eliminate dangerous tackles from the game, it's getting to the point where you can't lift a player's legs (or leg) off the ground for fear of seeing a card. Just ridiculous.

That said, I was pretty happy with how Wales played - Priestland's place kicking aside. Given the woeful miss in the first half and the probable try which wasn't given (I don't understand why Wayne Barnes wasn't asking if there was any reason why the try should've been awarded), Ireland should've felt themselves lucky to have won.

Given that penalty against Ferris though, I don't doubt they're feeling cheated.


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Sun 5 Feb 12 #14 
kevg
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Must admit having calmed down Wales probably deserved the win. First 30 mins from Ireland were awful. I thought O'Callaghan held the ball up meself but referee's are getting very cowardly these days. Whether he had given it or not everybody would just have played on. Do you think they ref with one eye on the next days headlines ?


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Mon 6 Feb 12 #15 
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Ok have ventured in here now. We recorded the Ireland vs Wales match and have managed to spend the whole day avoiding the results so we could get home pour a wine and watch the game!

Wow was a close game. Happy with the result of course, though for a while I was worried that Wales would lose!

Wayne has subscribed to cable for a month so we can see the games. None of the free to air channels are carrying them!

Stupid free to air!


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Mon 6 Feb 12 #16 
kevg
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You can catch all the action on Firstrow for free, can be a bit of a lag depending on your internet speed.


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Tue 7 Feb 12 #17 
kevg
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Davies cited for his tackle, probably a 2 game ban at least. Ferris also cited ?? I reckon they'll overturn the penalty decision and award the game to Ireland.


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Tue 7 Feb 12 #18 
Doctor Factenstein
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I'm expecting a six week ban for Bradley Davies. Sam Warburton got 3 for his tackle in the World Cup and this was much worse. Even six weeks may be lenient.

I would be astounded if Ferris received any punishment. It must, surely, be just an automatic process whereby anyone who gets a card for a dangerous tackle gets cited afterwards. I've looked at the footage a few times and I don't see how it goes against the letter of the law. He doesn't drop him, he doesn't drive him into the ground.


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Tue 7 Feb 12 #19 
kevg
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I see Dan Parks has retired, jump before you get pushed ??


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Wed 8 Feb 12 #20 
Doctor Factenstein
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A seven week ban for Bradley Davies. Not too far off what I was expecting. It means he won't be available for the remaining games of the Six Nations.

Fair enough really.

Shame, really, about Parks. He didn't have his best game on Sunday and his form generally has suffered in the last couple of years but it's a bad way to duck out. If he was thinking of quitting he'd have been doing everyone a favour if he'd done it after the World Cup with Chris Patterson.

I wouldn't start him again but I'd definitely have had him on the bench as cover for Laidlaw next weekend.


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Wed 8 Feb 12 #21 
kevg
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A tad harsh on Davies but not much he can say I suppose. Pre citing committees I remember Martin Johnson sticking his elbow forcibly in Doddie Weir's ear, perforating his eardrum. It was called enforcement, which appears to be what Davies was doing. The game has moved on, not necessarily for the better.
Pleased to see Ferris has escaped any further punishment, a ludicrous decision in the first place.


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Sun 12 Feb 12 #22 
kevg
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Not a great performance from England but adequate, I think we can see Dickson and Morgan starting next time out.
Scotland yet again threw it away in 10 minutes of madness/stupidity, although a sound defensive display by Wales before Scotland let them in.
Ireland's 63-0 win over France was much better


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Mon 13 Feb 12 #23 
Doctor Factenstein
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England win by a Hodgson charge down try for the second time in a row? You couldn't make this stuff up.

I think Lancaster might be starting to get a little concerned about his side's lack of creativity. If Wales don't follow the script and serve up a similarly slow clearance kick for Hodgson to feast on then England might be too reliant on the impressive boot of Farrell.

Scotland played well again but I never felt the result was in much doubt. We looked the stronger team throughout and the pressure we were putting on the Scots was probably in no small part to blame for their madness.

We did well to hold out at the end when down to 14 men.


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Mon 13 Feb 12 #24 
sally906
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yaaaaaay Wales!!!!! ***She waves a daffy in one hand and a leek in the other***


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Wed 15 Feb 12 #25 
Knitwitty
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Indeed Catopatra... yaaaaaay Wales!... bring it on... although it is tricky being married to an English supporter... I've tried to convince him as he is a British Rhodesian he can support any of the British sides so why not Wales... tish ***puts on dragon head hat and comedy claw feet***


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Wed 15 Feb 12 #26 
kevg
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this is family, I may have to kill them all


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Wed 15 Feb 12 #27 
Knitwitty
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Don't be silly... you need your family to keep you grumpy... you'd be way too happy otherwise... have to pay great homage to the Irish for a spectacular win though... good job!

...and what's with the cute kill you kitten?


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Wed 15 Feb 12 #28 
kevg
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my cute and cuddly side


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Wed 15 Feb 12 #29 
sally906
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Only Kev can be cute, cuddly and evil at the same time :)

My hubby announced he is barracking for France for the six.

For the first time in 35 years I am considering murder!

I'll poison his Almond croissants!


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Fri 24 Feb 12 #30 
kevg
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Not happy with Steve Walsh reffing, the guy is very anti-English so that's a 5 point start to Wales. Happy enough to see Tuilagi back (are we sure he's English ?) with Barritt to take on the big backs. Farrell at 10 ?? Are you sure about this Mr Lancaster ?? The guy hasn't stood out for me, so long as Toby comes on at half time...........
Forwards looking OK with Morgan in the mix although not sure Parling has done enough to take out Palmer. We'll find out shortly. I'm expecting a Wales win by 10, hoping for an England win by 3, dreading a drubbing !!


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Fri 24 Feb 12 #31 
Knitwitty
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That'll make up for the Franco Irish fiasco! ...a drubbing here we go... a drubbing here we go... Cymru am byth!


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Fri 24 Feb 12 #32 
shortbreadforme27
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Scotland to prevail against the onion johnnies - Robertson to the fore.


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Sat 25 Feb 12 #33 
southshoregirl

Has anyone ever seen a camelback cricket? RAID!


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Sat 25 Feb 12 #34 
Knitwitty
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Whoa! ....at one point I'd have been happy for Wales to draw! We were sooo nearly creamed by some great play!


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Sat 25 Feb 12 #35 
kevg
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Good game and restored some pride to England. Last minute try could easily have been given and then a very nervy kick !!
Ah well, well played Wales, who's next ??


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Sun 26 Feb 12 #36 
kevg
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Another excellent match !! Well played France and hard luck Scotland.


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Sun 26 Feb 12 #37 
shortbreadforme27
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Inconclusive - I'll give you inconclusive.


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Sat 10 Mar 12 #38 
kevg
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As the tourney moves on the matches get better, culminating in a draw for Ireland in France last week, does cookery get any tougher than this ?? I see England are favourites to beat France today, can't see it meself but I can hope. Wales may just squeeze thru against Italy and Ireland should spoil Scotland's season even more. All set for a long weekends sport, cricket NZ v SA is on as well for the early morning. Isn't life wonderful !!


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Sat 17 Mar 12 #39 
kevg
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Italy v Scotland, what a load of rubbish !! Makes me want to start playing again !! I could get in either team !! Good to see Italy off the bottom of table but where do Scotland go from here ???


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Sat 17 Mar 12 #40 
shortbreadforme27
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Sack the Englishman - talk about regression - no passion, no desire = no wins = wooden spoonists.


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