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Wed 10 Oct #1 
kevg
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Or have they ?

Sir Craig Mackey sat in his car and watched as PC Palmer was stabbed to death. A little bit out with timeline but essentially this what happened.

How did this brave policeman reach the giddy heights of Assistant Metroploitan Police Commissioner ?

Form filling and an ass licking personality ?

He coolly assessed the situation , then ran away.

Chief of police in Isle of Man would be proud of him. He has said his officers safety is his first priority. No mention of public safety.

University Policemen ?

I think so.

 

 




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Wed 10 Oct #2 
Bryn middleton
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Nah.  Just rose tinted specs, methinks.  Although, in seriousness, for better or worse 'protect yourself' seems to be the modern mantra for those in uniform.  That's not necessarily a criticism. I'd never expect anyone to rush into potential mortal danger, whatever uniform they wear.  And the potential dangers of modern policing far outstrip anything Dixon or Z cars had to contend with; or Carter and Regan for that matter.  And in the US it seems this tends to default to a keenness to use weapons on the part of law enforcement, resulting in worrying instances of avoidable deaths.  Finally, if your argument is for more poorly educated police officers...hmmm.  Interesting.




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Wed 10 Oct #3 
kevg
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"Finally, if your argument is for more poorly educated police officers...hmmm.  Interesting."

 

not poorly educated , but coppers who know the job should also get first chance at higher positions




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Thu 11 Oct #4 
BBandicoot
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Tough subject for me. I live in Chicago. In my neighborhood there are gunshots every day. On one hand, I have a friend who just graduated the academy and has good judgment. On the other hand, we just had the Laquan Mcdonald verdict.

Policing used to be done by people who knew the community they policed. It was a community service. Now they throw rage-filled cowards into neighborhoods they would never step foot in outside of work. Police here have left me scared for my life after minor traffic violations. 

Policing in this country has become a political, militaristic endeavor.  Maybe keeping them in the districts they are from would help? Then they would actually feel a reason to serve and protect? 




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Sat 20 Oct #5 
Knitwitty
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It was definitely true in the 70's early 80's when I was in the force... Hendon grads would walz into a station 'above' everyone else who had been pounding the beat and working through their exams to rise to the giddy heights of sergeant or try to get into CID... so sad if it's still the case. At least the women don't have to wear skirts and carry a handbag like I did... you try chasing a thieving scumbag over the back fences dressed like that with only a 6 inch truncheon to defend yourself LOL!

 

 

 

 




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Sat 20 Oct #6 
kevg
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I knew there was a reason I hated you Knitwitty !!




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Sat 20 Oct #7 
Knitwitty
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Ha Ha... I did add a p.s. and a right rant... but it didn't save... I was an awful PC... I would let people off because they'd lose their jobs... and get told off... and then not book others with 'funny hand shakes'... and get told off... they hated bikers where I was posted in the back waters... I won't do the sexist rant bit again but safe to say it was my worst job ever.... I jumped before I was pushed! But as an aside all officers swear an oath to protect people and property... and as a normal human I would always help another human in trouble... not sit in a car and watch.




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Wed 24 Oct #8 
BBandicoot
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Constable Knitwitty! Bet you were great. Bet you caught a lot of those scumbags too :)

There are a lot of great officers out there still. Witnessed a pretty humorous exchange between a female officer and a female civilian yesterday. Can't type a single word of it here, but I was cracking up. 

 




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