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Tue 12 Jun #1 
Ruby Franks
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Maria Bueno -- Tennis Player -- d. 2018

Mary Wilson -- Poet -- d.2018

Mary Wilson -- Political Spouse -- d.2018 aged 102. Wife of British Prime Minister Harold Wilson, she notably publically disagreed with some Labour Party policies, being generally to the left of her husband, She published some volumes of poetry and was involved in British literary life.

Tessa Jowell -- Politician -- d.2018. Labour MP and peer, She was Minister of Olympics and instrumental in London's successful bid for the 2012 Olympics. In 2017 she announced that she had a terminal brain tumour, and in the last active months of her life campaigned for changes in protocols in medical trials for cancer patients.

Margot Kidder -- Actor -- d.2018.

Tom Wolfe -- Author -- d.2018.

Philip Roth -- Author -- d.2018.

Milos Forman -- Film Director -- d.2018.

Barbara Bush -- Political Spouse -- d. 2018.

Doreen Simmons -- Sumo Wrestling Commentator -- d.2018.

Roger Bannister -- Athlete -- d.2018. Ran the first sub-4 minute mile in 1954.

Roger Bannister -- Doctor -- d. 2018. A neurologist who always said that he was prouder of his medical achievements than his athletic prowess, he was the first man to run the mile in under 4 minutes. He published many papers and several text books on conditions of the nervous system.




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Wed 13 Jun #2 
jackson
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Anthony Bourdain -- celebrity chef, author, travel documentarian, and television personality -- d.2018




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Thu 14 Jun #3 
Ruby Franks
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How could I have not included him? I first heard  him being very very funny on radio, then read some of his books.




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Thu 14 Jun #4 
jackson
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His tv show (Parts unknown) was and is rather enjoyable. Originally on cnn it will now or soon be available on netflix. rip Anthony




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Fri 15 Jun #5 
JMK
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Thanks Ruby and Jackson. I have put in most of these.
Debating about the Sumo wrestler commentator (although there is a nice novelty angle) and the politician. I have never heard of either of them and wonder if they are just known in the U.K. Interested to hear the opinions of othrs.




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Sat 16 Jun #6 
Ruby Franks
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Thanks JMK.

When I add these I tend to include people I've heard of which of course gives it my particular geographical/age/cultural bias - but hey, everyone can add facts,  and I usually think about those which most people would have heard of.

When I heard of Doreen Simmons death (I am a regular listener to BBC's Last Word) I was reminded of when I was living away from the UK pre-internet and with no source of English language press I listened to the World Service and would sometimes hear this rather posh woman  talking on many things Japanese. I thought she would be a nice curve ball for Factalarians. Perhaps I should glean a few more additional facts from wiki?

Mary Wilson was a well-known figure of the 60s and 70s being a Prime Minister's spouse, but perhaps not known by younger people in the UK.

Tessa Jowell was a Cabinet minister in both the Blair and Brown governments, so pretty important and her campaigning during her short terminal illness was both moving and effective. Her proposals to change cancer drugs trials protocols have been accepted.

There are quite a few US politicians and campaigners who I hadn't come across before I met them on Factacular, but that's the point isn't it?




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Sat 16 Jun #7 
Ruby Franks
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Sometimes, after I've posted something like the above, I think I sound/read as a bit grumpy. Its not the intention at all. I'm very cheery but can over-explain (husband made me roar with laughter the other day by telling me to go and stand in pedantry corner)




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Sat 16 Jun #8 
JMK
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Thanks for your comments. I had already added Mary Wilson. Hoping to hear from others before I decide whether to add Doreen Simmons and Tessa Jowell.

If I add Tessa Jowell does that mean all cabinet ministers should be added? What about cabinet ministers or their equivalent in other countries? Should they all be added? Is there somethings special about her that would make her an exception? 

For Doreen Simmons I am tempted to add her just because of the unusalness (is that a word?) of her occupation, but there are lots of others with unusual occupations. Is there some reason that makes her special?

These are just questions to think about and I am keen to hear the thoughts of others.




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Mon 18 Jun #9 
chooky
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Just some thoughts on who might or mightn't be worthy of inclusion. If the person has distinguished themselves in their particular field or is notable for a wide range of achievements then maybe they could be included even if their vocation isn't particularly noteworthy.
Take the example Doreen Simmons. 'Sumo Commentator' isn't the memorable part. She gained her expert knowledge in a male dominated sport in a culture very different to her own. She worked at this right up to her death at 85. She was accomplished in other areas too.
I think people like her deserve inclusion.
In the case of cabinet ministers or politicians in general, just on the strength of that profession, I personally wouldn't have thought they make the list but if they have garnered additional fame (or infamy) they might get a mention.




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