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Thu 29 Jun 17 #1 
jmaxg
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I watched a show called "GLOW" on Netflix.

Either watch it or don't.

But the show gave me the best explanation of trans-gender or trans-identity of all time.




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Thu 29 Jun 17 #2 
jmaxg
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I'll accept anything if it's explained to me.

What happened was that Netflix tried to explain what trans-identity was in a way that nobody had ever even attempted before.

In that episode of "GLOW", we see the dedication and the regimen of what it takes to be "alternate". This is a life they choose for themselves. It is not chosen for them.

In the best line I have ever heard, the person says "I am still human."

That literally broke my heart.

For never a truer statement was ever uttered.




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Thu 29 Jun 17 #3 
Helen McKenzie
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"I am still human".....this is a line that should relate to every single person in this world. Whether you are male, female, black, white, different ethnicity, gay, lesbian, transgender/identity, good person or a bad person....you are human.




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Thu 29 Jun 17 #4 
sally906 (online)
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A male friend of ours was a woman when we first met him at high school here in Oz.  He was on the school netball team with me and my now husband's then girlfriend.

He started to have his gender reassigned back in the 1990s and we shared his battle every step of the way. And it was a battle. He has come through it but there was rejection, hatred and cruelty from many - including his own parents.  When his mother died he was told not to go to her funeral.  

While he was undergoing the surgeries he went to Uni and got a degree as a phsyciatrist (sp) - he is now part of a medical unit in Canada that helps men and women go through sex changes.  Something he had no access to when he did it.  My high school friend Cheryl is no more - but Craig and his wife are dear dear friends.  Craig is certainly as human now as he was when we were at school  

 




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Thu 29 Jun 17 #5 
jmaxg
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I'd love to give up the context.

But this is the best written show I have ever watched. So I cannot. You have to watch it.

As for the character that changed my mind?

Sheila, darling, you she-wolfe.

I was wrong and I apologise.

I want everyone on Planet Earth to be as weird and freaky as you.

I finally get that identity is your personal call.

Being born a certain way may not necessarily determine your life.

If I wish to be a wolf, I'm a fucking wolf!

I KNOW it can be nuts. In some cases, it doesn't even work.

But if a guy wakes up one day and want's to be a girl, or if a girl one day wishes to dress as a guy, if either of them don't know how to sexually progress.......

Then I would suggest we leave it up to them. It may be weird, but it's none of our damn business.

In doing so, we are finally getting the point.

 




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Thu 29 Jun 17 #6 
jmaxg
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Spending so many years as a dope that thought of dynamics as either male or female?

All I can say is I am sorry.

Have I been beaten up incorrectly? Yes.

Being a male is not a reason to be beaten up. Pointing out a 100,000 year deference is definitely a reason to be pissed off.

But remember archaelogigical basics.

Things have changed and deservedly. But civilisation looks after a lot and corrects.

Serena Williams maintains that she is the best. Yet she has played a massively lower level of Tennis Sets.

To match John McEnroe, for example, she would have to play another 10 years of straight set wins.

I know she doesn't like it. But it's a fact.

So yeah, sometimes pointing out you are a female does not help.

I get why. But also I am just saying.




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Thu 29 Jun 17 #7 
Doctor Factenstein
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"Actually it's funny, because Andy Murray, he's been joking about myself and him playing a match. I'm like, 'Andy, seriously, are you kidding me?' For me, mens' tennis and womens' tennis are completely, almost, two separate sports. If I were to play Andy Murray, I would lose 6-0, 6-0 in five to six minutes, maybe 10 minutes. No, it's true. It's a completely different sport. The men are a lot faster and they serve harder, they hit harder, it's just a different game. I love to play women's tennis. I only want to play girls, because i don't want to be embarrassed. I would not do the tour, I would not do Billie Jean [King] any justice. So Andy, stop it. I'm not going to let you kill me."

- Serena Williams to David Letterman, 2013




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Sat 1 Jul 17 #8 
jmaxg
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The funny thing is, if you prepare a spreadsheet, you immediately see the difference.

I am not saying John McEnroe is polite. But I am not saying he is wrong either.

There is a difference between mens and womens tennis and it's a HUGE difference.

Muhammad Ali's daughter, Laila, was a great female boxer. I watched her. She was amazing. But she never got beyond the fourth round. Actually watching ANY champion female boxer in the fourth round was painful. They literally turned from boxing to swatting and trying to stay up.

Look, I don't have to particularly like McEnroe. But he is just stating what is statistically correct.

When you earn your big bucks doing a potential five sets instead of just three? Then maybe you have a point.

Otherwise, take it up with the Tennis Lords.

Do I think that Serena is equal to the task? Yes! I think there is no doubt there. But that is not the point.




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Sat 1 Jul 17 #9 
Ruby Franks
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Tennis and other sports are businesses and entertainment. If female players can pull in the same crowds as male players, giving the business an equal amount of income, then they should get the same prize money, despite the two games being very different. 

 




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Sat 1 Jul 17 #10 
Helen McKenzie
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It can be said in the world of equal opportunities....for many years women have always fought for equal pay parity with their male collegues in the work force doing the same job. When it comes to professional sport i see no difference and as such should be treated the same.




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Thu 6 Jul 17 #11 
jmaxg
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Pulling in the same crowds is NOT the point.

If you don't get the point, then we will always have this argument.




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Thu 6 Jul 17 #12 
jmaxg
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All I know is that I can see the difference between 3 sets and 5 sets.

And Serena once admitted that.

She not only admitted it, she made a point about it.

So if we are gonna go this way, fine. Just be consistent.




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Thu 6 Jul 17 #13 
Doctor Factenstein
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It's "2 sets", isn't it?




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Thu 6 Jul 17 #14 
jmaxg
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Fine! If you wish to make a point about it!




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Thu 6 Jul 17 #15 
jmaxg
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But yes, you are correct.




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Thu 6 Jul 17 #16 
jmaxg
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When Billie Jean King handed Bobby Rigg's ass to him, it was vital that it had to happen.




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Thu 6 Jul 17 #17 
jmaxg
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But is there a difference between lady tennis and championship tennis?

Dunno. Is there a difference between women's tennis and male tennis?

Yes......two more sets.

We are not complete idiots.

If you want me to behave like a dildo, I would suggest you don't know the difference.




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Thu 6 Jul 17 #18 
jmaxg
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NPR posted THe Declaration of Independence.

Members tweeted hatred. and awful comments.

No, really. It actually sucks to be you.




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