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Thu 29 Dec 16 #1 
jmaxg
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I'll just say one bloody thing.....

When tasked to observe the relative rates of circular galaxies, she noticed one thing. That singular thing gave rise to different theories, attracted scientists and basically blew up the fact that she first discovered it.

Even Neil deGrasse Tyson is complicent in this.

The way I read Vera Rubin's initial input in this is that she was originally tasked to guage the relative speed of a galaxy as it revolves around the centre.

But here's the thing.....NDT's "Cosmos" portrayed Vera Rubin as something close to a secretary. When, in fact, she had gotten observatory time and was a doctor.

Carl Sagan wouldn't have done that.




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Thu 29 Dec 16 #2 
jmaxg
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The point being, Vera Rubin is one of the great physics observers of our time.

NOW is being discussed what I had discussed with JMK almost ten years ago when I argued that she be a part of the Factopedia. JMK agreed and Vera Rubin was included.

NOW, articles are being written about why she didn't get the Nobel Prize.

TWO of us, JMK and I, got this grand lady into the Factopedia many years ago!

The point being is that she was already in according to us.

NOW they wanna bring up the Nobel Prize thing.

It's lovely to be proven you were right. But it's hard to come to grips with the implications.

All I know is, Vera Rubin did that which was asked of her.

As it turned out, her results changed everything.




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Thu 29 Dec 16 #3 
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That is the difference between the NDT "Cosmos" and the Carl Sagan "Cosmos".

At least one woman was put up front as a hero in the Carl Sagan "Cosmos".

Hypatia, the last librarian, is a hero. In the NDT version, she didn't even rate a mention.

Sorry, but that has to be pointed out.




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Thu 29 Dec 16 #4 
jmaxg
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Oh and Vera Rubin.

In the NDT "Cosmos" she seemed to be a secretary.

In fact, Vera Rubin was a doctor at the time she was tasked to guage the speed of the galaxy and she presented her own conclusions some of which referred to a type of matter that had hitherto not been thought of.

JMK and I were right all along.

The NDT version graciously says that she's a woman in a gaggle.

That is SO not true. She's dead now but I am amazed at how she just allowed that to happen.

The only reason being is that she did not give a shit.

I suppose a lesson to us all.




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Thu 29 Dec 16 #5 
jmaxg
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All she did was work out the revolving rates of certain layers of the Milky Way.

In being shown that velocity rates were not slowing when they should have slowed, another conclusion was required.

She was the first to hypothesise that something, other than stars and systems was there. Another MALE scientist gave it a name.......dark matter.

But SHE was the first to see it and understand it's nature. The male scientists basically lifted her work.

Despite some short-shifting, I will tell my daughters and grand-daughters to be like her.

The one that read the galaxy and worked it out.

Ms. Vera Rubin.




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Tue 3 Jan 17 #6 
jmaxg
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The Death of Ms Vera Rubin.

On December 25th, 2016, Ms Vera Rubin passed away.

Ms Rubin is one of the people included in our Factopedia for a reason that I hope you will all look up.

The story goes that, as a female, she was tasked to register the relative galaxial revolving rates including the Milky Way.

But what was forgotten was that she was a PhD and entitled to come to her own conclusions.

Ms. Rubin concluded, because of slower than usual outer streams of the Milky Way when they should have been faster, that there must be a hitherto unknown form of mass.

Not named or known of in her time, it was later referred to, not by her even though it was discovered by her, as "Dark Matter".

Your boss and one of her friends are PROUD to admit that we admited Vera Rubin to the Factapedia years ago.

That's why we have members.

But about Vera Rubin's passing?

I am so sad. Science has suffered a great loss.

Humanity has suffered a great loss.

Yes, it's true, unbelievers can get emotional.




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Tue 3 Jan 17 #7 
jmaxg
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NDT (Neil deGrasse Tyson), according to his show will probably think different.

Well, guess what, she deserved better credit than YOUR show gave her credit for.

The bottom line being YOU didn't calculate external galaxial rates.

Dr. Vera Rubin did.




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Tue 3 Jan 17 #8 
jmaxg
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Me....and a good mate made sure she was elevated to the Factopedia.




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